Mark Groves (@createthelove on Instagram) is one of the leading voices on relationships and human connection. Leah Marshall (@msleahmarshall on Instagram) is the founder and leader of the Esther Perel Discussion Group on Facebook, a global community of over 10,000 members who regularly discuss relationships, desire, intimacy, and infidelity. Leah and Mark met up in Chicago as part of his 2019 Loving Bravely Book Club tour to chat about defining moments, relationship endings, and sustaining desire and curiosity in long-term relationships.